Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Originally Posted by huntsman22
I've never had a problem with the HMR on fox, if you hit them right. Low in the chest, or thru the shoulder.....



We have shot at least 20 this year that we lost- they run 10 feet into the brush and it's over. In this case the HMR is apparently not working for us. I wonder if the Winchester magnum version would be enough of a step up?



Exactly my experience with the 17hmr. I used it on 2 reds, except I wasn’t able to recover one of them.....not botched shots either. Broadside and frontal.