I have shot a lot of deer (big and not so big) using c&c 150 grain bullets in a 270 without excessive damage, from 10' out to about 400 yards. I originally started using them when a 130 spitzer (nosler solid base IIRC) got stopped by a mule deer buck's neck vertebrae at 30 yards. Typically they would go maybe 10-20 yards after the shot.