Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Steve,
This is in reply to your post, but ran on and is not aimed
to insult you.

I think these things go on because one side worships FPE,
and the other discounts it.

They are both wrong.

It's like talking horsepower and torque,
measured on a dyno, but used in the real world.
Rpm range, gearing....all factor in, and can skew results.


That 22-250 will be way more effective on varmits, coyotes, probably
even deer. Definitely if you use proper bullets for game.

Effective, as in fewer seconds to death.

Very possibly even in elk or moose if it's a lung shot.

That said, it's not a big game cartridge, and my scenario requires
too many things to be right.

Your big cast bullet will not destroy in the way a fast cartridge can,
it will do it differently. Deep long wound channels, breaking or penetrating
bone, mud whatever. Put that in the shoulder joints, hunts over.
No matter if it's antelope or bison.

For those who totally discount FPE, tell us
what we can use to measure the killing effects of missiles.

Longbow with 2 blade broadheads to 505 Gibbs with the 22-250 in between.
Give us a metric that precisely defines every stop.

Any that I'm aware of are useful, but only in Apple's to apples
comparisons. And even then, are skewed buy bullet choices, and other
factors.

Something often overlooked here is that others experiences might just
be as valid as anothers. But very due to many variables.
Big differences in hunting styles can mean big differences in guns chosen,
bullet placement/or choices of and obviously outcomes.



Interesting analogy, but it’s even more complicated than that. It’s more like the energy generated inside the cylinders of the engine as related to the outcome of the quarter mile race. The results depend on so many other factors, that the energy generated inside the engine is a terrible metric to use to predict the results. The aerodynamic form of the vehicle, mass of the vehicle, the traction between the tires and the tarmac, the gearing ratio, mechanical loss, energy loss to noise and heat, etc, all play a role in how much acceleration the vehicle experiences.

Similarly, kinetic energy of the projectile at the muzzle is a terrible metric for predicting the terminal results on an animal. Some of that energy is lost to air drag, some is converted to noise and heat, some is used to displace vital tissue, some is used to deform the projectile, some is converted into vibrations in the tissue, some is used to displace fat, hair, hide, and non-vital tissue, etc. The only relatively well-correlated metric is not the kinetic energy of the projectile, but how much vital tissue is destroyed, and that largely depends on a bullet arriving with enough velocity to expand the projectile, and for it to penetrate through the vital organs.