About 12-15 inches (or more) drop at 400 depending on cartridge. Enough that if you don’t account for it you have a rodeo on your hands.
And somewhere between 350-400 yards is when I think most, even most here, probably have no business shooting. Just wind at that range starts doing funny things.
Certainly more than 1 system that could account for it. I don’t like dialing because it takes my eyes and attention off the animal, and what’s happening around it, like a cow that moves behind him. Doesn’t bother others. Again, fine with me whatever system you use.
Are you saying you cannot hold over 12” on an elk? By that I mean hold the crosshairs 12” above where you want the bullet to impact?
