The M8 4x that came on my ā€˜66 Savage 99 .308 sure has a place. Traded for this rifle a couple years ago. Never used a fixed power before. Was a little concerned about it til I got it out in the woods. Yeah, that M8 is staying on it. And if it crapped the bed on me, I might even hit the used market to replace it with another. If 4X is too much, you gotta love those Weaver tip-off mounts! Never had one of those either. To my amazement, it does indeed hold zero. Iā€™m under fifty years old.