Get yourself a Marlin .45-70 use a 405gn cast wfn or wfngc at 1200-1300fps and be done with it. Moderate recoil. Not much is able to stop the momentum and the mass, etc.

Don't use the hot crap some call "factory".


Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.

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