Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by bigsqueeze
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
You can have Trump he sold the US out for a vote or money. He knew the China virus wasn't a real threat to the majority of US, and still shut the country down just to look good. During the greatest US economy the debt was out of control, now it's just unfathomable. Trump is still the best we have to choose from but you can sure tell he once was a dumocrat.
..................Trump sold out for a vote or money?? Oh really?? Care to enlighten us??......So Trump shut down the country in order just to look good, thereby almost destroying an economy which he worked so hard to build up and get going?? Looking forward to reading how and what evidence you have that leads you to arrive at that conclusion....The debt can begin to be corrected and wittled down little by little IF congress after the economy gets moving again STOPS ITS SPENDING!...... But ya gotta blame Trump for decade after decade of needless and wasteful spending and piling on the debt, BEFORE he took office.

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When the economy was the best in history the deficit was still going up at a record pace. Trump has added more to the debt than Obama.
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I believe 100% that Trump knew the China virus was a hoax and played along for some reason. If your old, fat or have other preexisting health issues the China flu is a real threat, why shut the country down to protect a few? And we see that they couldn't be protected any way. I'm all ears, why do you think Trump shut the country down?
........................Well the debt when Trump took office was about $20-$21 trillion. Obama started out his 1st term with about a $10 trillion debt. Now depending on what type of structure (loans etc) certain Covid19 stimuli had, some $$$ will be re-paid because they were structured as low interest loans.

As far as Trump adding to the debt in fighting covid19. What was the alternative? Tell Fauci, Birx, plus all the rest of the doctors and so called medical experts that they are wrong? As it turned out most of them were wrong about the projection models AFTER THE FACT!... BUT! In this case there was no way to know ahead of time what this virus was going to do or NOT DO. Had Trump not shut down the country, not halted travel to and from China, not halted travel to and from Europe, not halted travel to and from other countries, not implemented social distancing plus all the rest of what the doctors reco'd and instead basically continued as normal long before the virus had reached the top of the curve, would you then have been more comfortable with say 500,000 American deaths?, a million? two million? maybe more?

This virus was no hoax. Nevertheless in many ways this crises was and still is being overblown by the dems and media.

So lets assume that there was no stimulus $$$ made available to anyone. Not one $..... No help for small businesses, no help for big businesses, no help for any corporations such as airlines, cruise lines, hospitality related businesses, no help for any business that employs 1 person or thousands and no help for any individuals whatsoever.....So then what kind of an economy do you think we would have to go back to if little to no jobs are available because there was little to no business working capital for businesses to employ people?.......I will tell you. Had there not have been any govt stimulus in THIS case, any worthwhile economic recovery followed by steady positive growth, followed then to EXACTLY where we were before the virus,,, would have taken decades to rebound to the same economic status before the virus hit. A country's economic wealth is not built overnight or in a year or two.....

So while your concern for the debt is a good one, remember that in order for any robust economic recovery to occur, businesses and people must be solvent in order to employ people and solvent in order to be able to spend. Had there been no financial help for anyone, then you can bet that the cure would have been far more destructive than the disease itself due to a multitude multiplied by multiudes more of destructive societal after effects........


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