I load the 158 xtp for an all around load for my 357 jframe 360 scadnium and my wifes 3" sp101 trail/hiking pistol. The only threats I feel undergunned with that load is grizzly bear.

The 158 xtp penetrates deep and expands some but doesn't over expand at the 1050-1200 fps mv we run them at.

I've got some 180 hard cast too that really move over lilgun but prefer the 158 xtp for all around.

Bb