I was planning to use a .358 for my annual elk hunt in 1996. Bought some of the new Barnes 180 grain X bullet on their recommendation and about 3.5-4" groups was the very best I could get. I had a 250 grain Speer load that left the muzzle at 2353 fps and would group 1.5-2" on demand so that's the girl I took. The afternoon of Oct. 14 about 12:30 I got my shot at about 50-60 yards. At the shot, he stumbled and traveled 50 yards and was down. Complete penetration combined with terrible destruction to the lungs and an unneeded blood trail that anyone with eyes could follow made me a believer in the 3fiddygreat. I've found it to be as deadly on deer with 200-225 grain bullets also and can't wait for deer season to try her again!

Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths.
"there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser"
"the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"