Elk We just put a new floor in and everything is in crates some around here, biirc I was use IMR 4350 and with WW cases 62grs or close to that. Wildcat has Bob Hagel using 67gr for 3083 and Stover at 65 just over 3000,, I could barely get 62 in and it was pretty hot at that!! Mine was accurate with 62 @ 2900fps.
