Hey Woodswalker mornin, I've had both a 25-20 & 32-20. Both were about the same about 1-1/2 maybe under an inch now & again. Had a 357 mod, 94 Marlin that shot like a dang varmint gun though with the first hand load I tried!!! I'm pretty sure there like most stuff ya can get a bad one the odd time. Shot my only 10pt buck with 25-20 & a bear with the 32-20! Buck went straight down, bear went 40yds & died. Maybe I should sell all my big game cartridges & keep the smaller ones??? Just happened to be what I was carrying at the time. Don't have either one anymore, played some with them then traded for something new or un tried. Never ever made enough money to keep them all. Hope this helps some. Bill out. πŸΎπŸ‘£πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦