I handled the Accuguard and Ibex at Juniata Trading Post in Everett, PA and the Ibex at Sportsmans Warehouse in Cheyanne, all three solid rifles. I walked out of Juniata with andAccuguard in 270 Winchrsyter NIB for $500 because it had a small scratch in the stock, that was the last one. They had several in 6.5-300.