Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by webbedfeet
Iaff here, fireman. Large east coast fire department. Could have cared less about the "union" when I get hired at 21 years old, I just wanted to be a big city fireman. They don't align with my personal political views but do keep us from getting steamed rolled from the city council when it comes to cutting funding and jobs.


thank you for helping destroy middle class non union workers. Free healthcare and full pension for life at the expense of lower class Americans. congrats!!!!


When I started as an IAFF member 36 years ago I left a job in the private sector with a pension. Firefighters and police officers do not generally pay into social security except for part time jobs or pre or post retirement. We do not receive the full social security payment at retirement as everyone else. So I subsidize your social security. Your welcome.

The law changed in approximately 1988 for Fire and police employees hired after to have Medicare taken out. I had to work part time to get my quarters in because I didn’t qualify.

I had 2 private sector jobs with pensions before I starte in the firehouse in 1984. Many in the private sector willingly gave up pensions for 401k after being shown projected numbers after retirement.