I start with 2 patches soaked with good old Hoppes #9 to get the major crud out then I run a patch of Wipe-out accelerator followed by wipe-out foam...I let it soak for an hour or so then I run 8 or 10 more patches of Hoppes #9 followed by a dry patch and then a patch soaked in Lucas gun oil or Birchwood Casey Barricade and My rifle barrel is clean as a whistle, all copper fouling is gone and I shoot Barnes TTSX bullets exclusively........Good luck....Hb