I was Schnees fan for many years, in fact I requested a size 15 shell which they did not carry then (30 years ago or so) and the following year I had my 15's as a packer/guide. I believe their quality went down hill in recent years as the rubber kept failing in only a year or two. I bought a pair of Hoffmans which seem to be quality. I use the Schnees packer in cold weather when I am driving my standard 5 speed as it is easier for me to use the pedals with the pointy toes! I like having extra liners for all my boots, but I have to say that I have a pair of insulated fireman's boots and LaCrosse Alpha Burly's(I think) that work well around the farm in single digit temps for snowblowing and chores!