Last summer I bought a brand new one, never been fired for $300 after taxes. It is a 54 cal. I like it , but not as much as my Hawken. The reason is cause it has a single trigger and it is a bit stiff. It is better for hunting than my Hawken cause the Renegade barrel is longer. I make my own roundballs for almost nothing and my patches are all but free . I make them on cold winter nights when I can keep cabin fever at bay by dreaming of warmer days and bucks in rut. I have the 1/48" twist on both guns. I get about 4" at 50 yds , but it is off a block of wood for a rest. I have 4 muzzleloaders, A TC Encore, then a TC Impact, then I bought a TC Hawken 50 cal. I like the sidelocks so much that I have not shot the inlines since I bought my sidelocks. They are just so cool to shoot , and making my own roundballs and patches make it harder to run out of supplies . I have not made my own black powder yet and only shoot black powder. ABout 60 gr. is plenty for targets too. I even went as low as 40 gr. and is still just fine in my 50. Later, Ihookem.


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