On the more enjoyable side of things I've had much fun with the whelen loaded with 13.0grs of bluedot and 158gr cast semi wad cutters. I understand this is very close to "The Load" as it has been affectionately called. This load clocks 1450fps and is an absolute hoot to shoot. My niece took this rifle and a box of 50 shells so loaded and burned them so fast it made my head spin. The big grin on her face was worth all the trouble loading them. It's been called a reloaders dream caliber for very good reason. Get an accurate whelen and you'll have almost never ending combinations to try