I have tried Kodiak (40 and 50lb), Kodiak Magnum which is great from a tree stand and a Super Grizzly. The SG is 65lbs. I use it more to train with as I prefer the 55 lb KM for in the stand because of it is 52 inches and I can hit good at 20 yards. The SG is almost the same as the Grizzly. It shoots well and fast, kinda loud but that can be addressed easily enough. I would use a Grizzly without reservation if you like the grip. My next bow is either a Griszly or Cheyenne in 50.