I have the Seek Outside XL because it came as a package with my 8 man tipi. I like it fine. If weight were not a big concern, I'd look at one of the folding steel stoves Cabelas sells. Way cheaper and they look pretty sturdy and fold nicely. I'm considering getting one anyway to use for car camping. Ultimately, it's just a fireproof box with a stove pipe to ventilate. A homemade one would work fine if it didn't have to fold up.