Second the endorsement of 4-Dog. I’ve been through a couple Kifaru stoves and a KniCo. If I’m backpacking I take a Kifaru. Most of the time we are are llama packing and the 4 Dog ultralight titanium is the best for this application by far. It doesn’t collapse down but the performance more than makes up for it. Don Kevilus of 4 Dog is a great guy and a great American. Call him up to talk about stoves.