lots of places show them on their websites but all say out of stock or coming soon or something to that effect.
Went to my local GS today, he carried me in the back and we looked at all of his supplies, (wholesaler) on the computer, nobody had them.
I don't believe S&W has ever shipped one that was not with a gun.
Don't have any proof but I have talked to them twice and got 2 different stories that are not even close.
Last edited by pullit; 06/11/21.
