I agree buddy. I shot a box of it today, but daylight was fading. Seemed to shoot good, no failures. Loaded a little hotter than the Wolf steel cased stuff I generally shoot. I'm about ready to pop some primers out and make sure there is only one flash hole. I'll let you know. For $14/box, it seems reasonable. No shipping costs either, but if you can't find it locally, maybe the PPU stuff at midway may be your huckleberry. But for me, it would be a waste of money because of shipping costs.. LGS is a much better deal..