Lol. I wouldn't consider myself most Whelen owners but I believe it's certainly more capable than what it was designed for. Certainly not just a short range brush buster. The two that I own are designed for different purposes. The Mauser action is to be hunted with using normal Whelen heavies 225/250s. The Win 70 has a 25" heavy barrel and was built for shooting targets. I wouldn't call that typical but it'll shoot sub-moa even with cheap Hornady bullets. Capable cartridge to begin with but it's fun to experiment with newer bullet designs and powders.