Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
Originally Posted by MOGC
Originally Posted by urbaneruralite
... How do you get a fuller, denser pattern? You choke it down.


Or add more shot to the payload. And that's why you are using 9's and not 6's in your .410.


Forgot about this. 😆 How exactly is it you think switching to a different shot makes the pattern of the original shot change? These things do not relate. They're completely different loads. You can't load T9.5s and get lead sixes.

If you want to understand this stuff you really have to let go of the winning an argument nonsense. Try to learn instead.

Lead isn't even in the picture for the .410 past thirty yards. You have to go to to TSS if you want a forty yard pattern. Even then you have to choke it down. Adding more pellets is not an option because you have all you're gonna get already with small TSS and available shot cups.



Bore constriction isn't the only consideration in shotgun patterns. It seems that you are arguing right past my statement without understanding the point. The written word doesn't always convey the message clearly and that's on me. Or maybe you are the one trying to win the argument and didn't take the time to understand the point.

All else equal adding more pellets should make for a fuller pattern. Isn't that the whole point of using TSS in a 410? The ballistic ability of TSS allows smaller pellets to do the same work as larger lead shot which means more TSS pellets in the pattern and so all else equal a fuller denser pattern with fewer gaps and holes in it. Why else use #9.5 size TSS shot? TSS is the only shot that makes a 410 a serious turkey hunting option.


There is no adding more pellets. You start with all you'll get limited by penetration ability and available shot cups. The only variable is choke. It's the same regardless of shot material or gauge. You will hit a limit for stuffing in more pellets before you reach your goal for turkey. Then you have to choke it. So, when we're talking about turkey loads we start at the obvious point. Because there's really no point in even discussing the obvious such as adding more pellets. I think this rabbit made a hole already.

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