I have many 40/50 kills with the 180 NP, out of various 30 calibers, mostly 300WM. I DO NOT want a pass thru, I do my best to shoot them, to break them down, instantally, by breaking both front shoulders. I have seen to many run over a hill into the next canyon, after being hit in the lungs or heart. I want them DRT. I don't want to have to follow them around on 50% side hills and deep canyons where a 100 yard run ends up being a quarter mile down the mountain in the timber. I like the Pt and have good experiences with the AB. My last three elk kills, at 420, 310, and 180, yards, have all been one shot and I saw them hit the ground. This will be my 56th or 57th season, and my first hunt starts on Saturday.