I only own one Sako 85. it's a 260. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. I haven't had any problems with it what so ever. Then again it is a short action. My long actions 270, and 30-06 are Tikka T3x Lite's. They shoot every bit as good as the Sako 85. Imo, you get the most bang for your buck with the Tikka.