Evnin, holeee crap. I just received a new knife, almost identical to the zero tolerance. New maker I'd never heard of, CJRB gobi flipper, 3-1/2" blade maybe a little more up sweep to it in D2 steel. Just ordered another from another unknown manufacturer. Kube, model pretender 3 5/8 blade D2 both folders. Well made and way cheaper than ZT. The last one ordered has more of a rising drop point, slimmer to. Should make the work on the south end of deer easier. The upswept one has that rising point and can catch things makes a pretty good skinner though. These new companies are usually related to a better or larger company just trying to cover all bases. Love the knives. Think it's about time for G dubya showed us more of his collection???? GWP. πŸΎπŸ‘£πŸΎπŸ‘£πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦