Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Ironically, 80 years ago we fought against Germany who attacked Russia, and Japan who attacked China. Perhaps we fought on the wrong side...


Indeed.


Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by JoeBob
There is a better chance of Poland invading Russia than Russia invading Poland. Poland would love to have back the western half of Ukraine which was Poland up until the end of WW II when Stalin basically picked up Poland and set it down 100 miles west of where it always had been.


The Poles have most pro American ruling elite class in Central/Eastern Europe. Where does one start? They are the reason Russians had to construct Baltic Pipeline because the Poles would not agree to pipeline through their territory. They have backed opposition government in Belorussia. They will now become to Americans and the British what Pakistan was to Taliban. I do not see how Russian Federation can tolerate this. The only way the Poles could get land back east of Curzon Line is by cooperating and helping the Russian Federation. One must remember the reason current western border is on the Oder river was because Josef Stalin wanted to move German border further west from Russia. The Americans wanted Poland to have pre World War II border with Germany.


Poland should worry as much looking immediately to their west as they should to the east.


Blocking the Russian pipeline was serious mistake. Russians offered to build it at their own cost plus pay Poles over billion dollars per year for it existance, not to mention affordable energy source. The Poles would be much better off if they cooperated and traded with Russian Federation and Germany. They would not be in danger of annihilation now.


Poles are in no danger of annihilation. Russia may be able to beat Ukraine about the head, but they don;t have the numbers much beyond that. End state likely to be "independent" Donbass and pro-Russian Ukranian gov't tied tightly to Russia in every way.


Regards,

deadlift_dude
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