Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Real men prefer the .45-70.


450 is gayer'n aids.


Wow, this is a tough one to reply to… Ahh, what the hell! :-)

My son has a 45-70 and I have a 450. He bought his because we had nothing like it and he wanted something different. I bought the 450 because I wanted something in that power range to replace the Marlin 1894 44 Mag I just got rid of. Bolt action was a plus and I got it in a CVA Cascade. 45-70 is defiantly more versatile for reloading, brass has been easier to find (for me at least) and there is gobs of reloading data and articles on it. The 450bm has been tough to find brass for and when I do find it, it’s a buck a piece, new or used. Few people reload it and nobody uses cast bullets in them, except for me it seems. So, loading data in general is scarce and non existent for cast bullets. I’ve been experimenting, A LOT!

I guess the only thing I like better about my 450 is the bolt action rifle, everything else about the 45-70 is better. In a Ruger #1, 45-70 all the way, 450BM would never be considered by me..

Last edited by 450BM; 04/21/22.