Hey John, let me bounce something stuff off you.

I use blue dot in the kid's guns for them to shoot and have fun. I'm using CCI 450 mag primers, I have 3 bricks and looking for a way to use them.

In 222 I use 8grs for just over 2000fps with a 50gr sierra... kinda like a 22mag was what I was wanting.

In 223 I use 12gr for about 2500fps and 55gr hndy, my niece has pretty much claimed that gun she likes it so much, so it's hers now.

Granddaughter's 6mm I use 21gr with 90gr bt, she's 10 and shoots it fine.

I have plenty of blue dot.

Anyway, other powders, I have some and just thinking, hmmmm I wonder. I have...

Win 572, listed next to blue dot on the burn chart, 8lbs
Unique, 10lbs
Green dot, 5lbs
Red dot, 4lbs
WSF, 2lbs
HS6, 2lbs
452aa, 18lbs
473aa, 8lbs

The burn rates are within what you are using, do you use those powders because of individual characteristics or would similar burn rate powders give similar results? I'm interested in reduced loads in the 1800 to 2400fps loads, 40 to 55gr bullets, varmint/small game for the grandkids. Also if things went to chit and those powders were all I had could I make a usable load.

I picked up the 452 and 473 last year, loaded 452 in shotshell in the 70s and 80s, forgot how good a powder it was. Been using it in 38spec and 45acp, performs like bullseye/red dot and clean burning. 473 is somewhere around green dot, my old lyman manual has loads for both in 12ga that I circled long ago. I loaded red dot and 452 in 38 and shot them side by side, the 452 was better accuracy wise and very close on velocity, about a half grain under Unique loads.

The way I'm going I'll never use all that 452, or my grandson's life either. I would like to try it in 222 for an 1800 to 2000fps load, basically a 22mag load for my savage 24V. Starting low like 4.5 grs, same as the 45acp, and shooting over a crony.

What do you think?

Kent