Yeah I was to I normally use different powders but just got that in yesterday loaded just a few it would not shoot hornady sst in 165 but would shoot the 180 sst around half inch with 120 grains powder and the 165 accubond with 122 grains of powder kreiger 30 inch that's reason I was curious about the velocity cause I came to learn manual are not very accurate hodgdon showed 3250 fps hornady shows 3500 plus out of a 26 inch