Was never impressed with speer. When I first started handloading, I threw some on the scale and after seeing how inconsistent they are I gave up on them and started using Nosler, sierra, and hornady. Have used their very good older grand slams with success, but the other plain jane vanilla bullets you guys can put to better use than I can. I know they work well for hunting, but I demand better precision than what speer can offer. Been shooting extremely accurate centerfire rifles since I was 12, so I know what they are all about. YMMV..
