I have now seen one in person, and to me they feel very S&W, M&P like as far as the grip (which I like). I am not a big fan of the safety, but can get past that. The article I read on the gun said it should retail for less than $400. I don't know when it was written, but I have yet to see anyone selling them for less than $400, most have been around $450 or more. I have not seen (but really have not looked really hard either) any magazines for them either. To me that is one reason I will hold off until they hit the market. I bought a S&W M&P Shield Plus and it was about a year or more before you could buy extra mag's for it. I hope to not fall into that trap again.


I may not be smart but I can lift heavy objects

I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....