I held Tom Selleck's Shilo Sharps from the movie Crossfire Trail when I went to order mine at the factory. It had a 17" LOP and fit me like a glove. Maybe since we are both 6' 4". I was wearing a T-shirt at the time so ordered mine with a 16" LOP. Fits as well with a coat on. For scoped rifles I like 14, but can deal with a tad shorter. 2 of my rifles have 13.5" LOPs and feel a bit too short, but I can make them work and are not heavy kickers. Don't want to get too short and bloody my nose.