Originally Posted by cwh2
Interesting! Haven't seen that failure.

Jcm, the backstreet boys showed up and they are everything you said they would be. Crazy light, larger diameter, nice abrasion coating (we'll see how that holds up) and stiff as a prom night prick. i even like the no bs wrist straps, at least in theory, but if that velcro fails they might have to get reworked. Anyway, thanks for the heads up and I look forward to trying them out.

You're very welcome. My favorite in use with nothing else close....but have to live with the not in use size tradeoff.