Originally Posted by org_Rogue_Hunter
Boy, what a bunch of defeatists...here's an issue that could move independent voters to the right, and, all I hear is "no, stop, let us continue to cry in our soup". Is your only purpose in coming here is to shed tear-drops on your keyboard.

Gawd, look at France. They aren't allowing electronic balloting. They're doing something.
Listen to the person Italy just voted into office. They're doing something.

And you sit here and say there's no point...we can't affect any change...our country is lost already.

Geez, stand up and act like adults...what a bunch of butt-hurt jr. high school kids.

Lol - not defeatist at all. It's simply "paying attention" - a state that voted for Jesse the Body Ventura and Al Franken isn't going to kill off the Dem party over missing money.

The problem is way too many non-realists. People who, just like those with TDS scream "we got them this time!" every time something happens.

The country is lost - people just don't realize it yet. We're not voting our way out of this.


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