I just loaded a bunch of 129 ablrs over 8208xbr for my son's first hunt tomorrow. I had them up to about 2450fps but I reduced them to about 2350fps because my kids only 10. I picked the ablr because it's a soft bullet and expands well at lower speeds. If I would have had some 100g nbts or NPTs I'd have probably just loaded them to keep recoil down. It's a howa mini in an mdt lss.

The back up is a 243 700 youth in an mdt lss with 85g npts.

I'm also throwing in my lightweight 16" ar with some 60g npt loads and my long range heavy 6.5 Creedmoor tac 30aw with a Bart 24" sender's. It wears a dmr2 bushy elite 3.5-21x50 and almost always shoots .3 moa or better with 140 vldh bullets over h4350 at 2820fps. If we have to go long I'll set him up on it and get him dialed. It's a pretty consistent milk jug killer out to 1000.

Bb