And for the rifle guys he was using my 18” 223 AR with the stock collapsed all the way down. 77 TMK over 25gr of Lever. I will say the illuminated reticle in the Leupold 1.25-4 and the suppressor make it easy for kids. Put the red dot where it goes and no ringing ears.

He was a shade high but the TMK did what they do and broke three ribs going in, pulverized a vertebrae to dust, and two ribs on the other side before it stopped under the hide. I haven’t weighed it but I’d guess 40-50 percent retention.

He is still keyed up this morning, can’t wait to go have coffee with his Great Grandad so he can tell him the story.