Still the old pair of Winchester 303 Brits. The P-14 took a nice eating doe on opening weekend for one of my oldest friends 14 year old son. Believe it or don't, some of the younglings know how to use peep sights. In his case, writing cursive, reading analog watches, and driving manual transmission cars are also part of his skill set. Remember when despairing for the newb generation that the media, MSM or otherwise, will show the SLOWEST members of the herd.