I just picked up an older 600jr. In 20 ga over the wknd gunshow. $ 50 all there and all the paper work. I don't think it had ever been used no wear on it anywhere. Set it up for short mags 1 1/8 oz of copper 5's. Federal hulls, ww 209, 27.5 grns of HS-7 and SP-20 power pistons. Right at 1200 fps should kill 40 + yd grouse and roosters just fine. Thing is I had all the components everything just needed to use them. Some call loading shotshells idiot work, I been doing it since I was 12 still have that 600 Jr too. Think I'll set the old one up for 3" yeah I do enjoy it. Shot a lot of birds in my life real ones and clays reloading my own shotshells made that possible...mb


" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "