Got to agree with Bricktop, those are my two favorites. From what I've seen with them on whitetails, there is no need to go above 100 grain unless you plan on game bigger than deer. There have been plenty of reports on the web about 100 Partitions and TSXs dropping elk easily with both cartridges. Given qicker than normal twists both would handle the 120s, but the standard 10" twist works better with the 100 and below.