And your knew LX (thats not even released yet) or Swarovski EL has failed you when, E? Surely you must have vast experience with both to make such a statement. And please don't quote JB, actually come up with something of your own or shut up.

Sorry Doug, I just turned the thread into something you didn't want it to. My growing intolerance for BS just got the best of me. I apologize.

Bill