JJHack
I see the same thing here. Same folks, same rifles.....300 Ultra mag or a 30-378 Wby....10 pound rifle, 28 inch fluted barrel, I dont need to practice, I was "born good"...thumbhole stock, 6 x 18 power scope with a 50 mm objective...shooting 150 grain Ballistic Tips or Sierra"s because "it'll shoot 1/2 groups all day long "..well so what <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

I tell them take a 338 Win, 225 Partition, 22 inch barrel, 2.5 x 8 Leupold with a stock sized so you can handle the rifle fast. Dont worry about a half inch group, the pupil of their eye's is larger than that. Learn to shoot standing on your hind legs and from "field " positions, not off the bench. Practice enough that you can "all day long" shoot into a 3 inch group from offhand and all field positions and you can sure enough hunt. Of course they ask me "have you ever been to Africa ? I say no, but I know folks who have.

They come back after season and say that rifle you built aint worth a damn for hunting....barrels too long,stock handling is slow, scopes too big , and those damn bullets just blow up and wont penetrate...not even with a gut shot... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

What's that guys name that has that video about "Here's your sign" ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

A few have the balls to say, hey you were right, lets take this action and make the rifle that you recommended the first time, but the majority say, I been thinking this over and I think I need a shorter barreled rifle in a 338 with a Partiton and a smaller scope ......dddduuuhhhh <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />...and can you load me up a few hundred practice loads ? I think I'll have a little more time to practice this year, they just opened a range close to my house...


End of the next season......
Phone rings...Hey Charlie, That rifle I speced out worked great....12 shots, 12 kills. Nothing went more than 50 yards....those Noslers at 2700 fps sure do kill good. All that practice paid off, never missed. Longest shot was about 175 yards.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />....guide was impressed, didnt go around mumbling like he did last year.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />..I guess him and his wife are getting along better... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Charlie


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