people diss rugers, but those same people talk about how great pre 64's are, I don't know about you but the pre 64's I have looked at sure have a lot of tool marks and IMO aren't machined all that great, remingtons to me are very boring, they don't have as good a safety. I wanted to do up 2 custom rifles, I went ahead and went with a remington for few reasons, the gun smiths I talked to said don't use a ruger, there are so many things out there for remingtons, stocks, scope bases, triggers, fireing pins, etc. ruger has very little, I wanted to go with a ruger so bad, but the smiths just didn't wanna do it.