Well, went ahead an ordered the Leupold 4x33 Matt, from SWFA for $219. Never ocured to me to check with Premiere Recticles first, I could have gotten it from them for $220 and ordered the 4a reticle at the same time for just an extra $30. Well live and learn, the standard duplex will have to do for the time being. As for the scope, I understand that the 4x33 doesn't have the Mc4 coating, but I can't find any information on whether its nitrogen filled and fog proof. Maybe some one here knows. Any way, at the same time I called Talley Manufacturing and ordered their screw type quick release rings and bases for it. Was going to get their peep sight also, but they said they have stoped producing them for awhile. Hope this isn't for long as this was the whole reason for going with the Talley rings in the first place.

Phil