Ditto on using Thunderheads! I use the 125gr version and don't see the need to change. You might want to put on a U.B.A.R on behind the broadhead to keep the rubber washer from slipping over and onto your Goldtips allowing the blades to come loose upon impact! They are inexpensive and don't add but .5gr if that. NAP suggest you use them and I have found the blades will come out if you have a hard impact when not using the U.B.A.R's on carbons like the Goldtips. Outstanding products!!

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