I use a mystery ranch crew cab. Once I load it up for my daily hike, hunt, etc, my pack weighs about 50-55lbs with the bladder 3/4 full. (about 80oz)I use this as my daypack walking all day ready to pack out (Hopefully, but not yet) with all the necessities such as game bags, knives, survival, food for the day, etc. I bought this pack for a daypack and a pack out. It just get's a little long for nine days hauling around all that weight. The "CC" almost weighs ten pounds itself. I am looking for a good daypack that can haul out a load. The "CC" can definitely do it, but maybe I am not packing right. What do you carry as a daypack and what's in it? What does it weigh? Do you use a "CC" as a daypack and carry out? Little advice on lowering my back weight so I can stay stronger and longer out it the field. I apologize to all you veterans that have answered this over and over. Thanks for all your generous help.