Buckfever, I haven't worked up anything in 165 or close to it.

My max loads without pressure signs on the brass were 56gr for the 208 AMax, and 67gr under the 130 TTSX. Max for the 165 would probably be around 60-63 gr in my rifle, and probably somewhere around 3000 fps. Just guesses.

Keep in mind I'm using fairly roomy Win and Norma brass, and moly coating my bullets.