Thanks for all the replies, and sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you but my family went to Mackinac for the weekend, and I've been busy catching up on school ever since. Most probably (hopefully), he will listen to me and get a Remington or Ruger bolt, but Mark is, umm, well, Mark. If he does get a mil surp trainer, I think he would get it from a gun dealer just around the corner that is very helpful and really nice. Thanks for all the input.<BR>Doren
