I don't think anyone is claiming that a standard caliber will not do the job on an elk. I have a 30-06, a 35 whelen and of course my 338wm. I like the margin of safety with the 338wm pushing a 225 grain bullet over my 30-06 with a 180 grain bullet. I load my 35 whelen with a 250 grain bullet. The whelen(remington 7600) is my timber gun and I would not consider shooting anything any where with it more than 250-300 yards. I find myself reaching for the 338wm everytime I open the gunsafe to head out elk hunting. tom


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